Credit Consumers Association
Protecting Your Interest!
Protecting Your Interest!
May 15th
Mr. Rao had a credit card 4384-5914-0280-3924 on which there was an outstanding of Rs 36798/- This was in Feb 2005. Due to unforeseen circumstances, Mr. Rao had to settle the card (by entering into a negotiated settlement with the bank). The settlement reached was for 16,000 and Mr. Rao was issued a letter dated 15th October 2005 for the settlement asking him to make a payment by the 15th of October. He promptly issued a cheque against the settlement letter. HSBC promised to send him a zeroised statement, which they never did.
As a standard term, banks insert a clause that the settlement has to be honored by a particular date else the whole amount becomes due. HSBC cheated Mr. Rao into parting with 16,000 as settlement amount and then imposed this clause as they had received the money on the 19th October in their account after presenting the cheque a few days late. This is a deliberate tactic of many banks to defraud hapless and ignorant customers.
Then HSBC went silent for 5 years. In 2010 they approached Mr. Rao again and demanded some more money on the same account. By this time, Mr. Rao had misplaced the settlement letter and receipt of the transaction done in 2005. He once again paid another 10,000 on 29th March 2010 and was later able to locate the original settlement letter.
Like other banks, HSBC reported Mr. Rao as a defaulter with CIBIL. His CIBIL report shows that he now owes HSBC 1,43,847.
Mr. Rao is applying for a housing loan but his loan applications are getting rejected due to his record having been tarnished in CIBIL.
Thus banks like HSBC are using CIBIL to target customers into paying up for wrong reporting done by them on the customers account.
CIBIL is the systems way of creating a harassment tool for easy recovery even when the customer is not at fault.
Mr. Rao has been writing to various people including HSBC but to no avail.
The association will now have to escalate the matter to Banking Ombudsman.
May 9th
Deccan Herald carried a story of one of our members, Ms. Sandhya Rani from Hyderabad who is being illegally harassed for loans taken in Dubai by her husband.
So much so that the couple has been brought to the brink of suicide by these illegal debt collectors.
When will RBI and authorities wake up? When some one dies? Is life so cheap in India?

Deccan Herald Story on our members plight for loan taken in Dubai
Apr 26th
S.K. Agarwal works in the recovery department of PNB in Ahmedabad. He is a living example of vultures who have come to occupy recovery departments in banks. These vultures have no regard to the process of law.
Mr. Dinesh Rami took out a business loan from PNB which became a Non-Performing-Asset due to circumstances beyond his control. As collateral security he had pledged his home for this loan as is a standard practice in nationalized and private banks in India.
When the loan became NPA, PNB started recovery proceedings. Mr. S.K. Agarwal approached Mr. Dinesh Rami to buy his property at a distressed price threatening him that in any case he would take away the property so it would be better if the property was sold to him privately and in return he would get a waiver on the loan that Mr. Rami owed to PNB (again a standard practice).
One fine day Mr. Agarwal along with some other officers and police in tow landed at the residence of Mr. Rami and started throwing his belongings on the street. Mr. Rami’s son, Ashish, who was incidentally present in the house, pleaded with the recovery officers for some time but was abused verbally by all those present.
In a fit of helplessness, Ashish chose to end his life by jumping off a bridge in Sabarmati River. This happened in December 2010. Mr. S.K. Agarwal was directly responsible for snuffing away the life of a young man who had a bright future in the world of cricket.
PNB and its officers and the police officers who had come to seal the house have never again visited Mr. Rami but have left them completely shattered at the loss of their only son.
Mr. S.K. Agarwal continues to work with PNB in Ahmedabad and PNB shamelessly continues to seek a compromise from Mr. Rami.
Letters to President of India, Chief Vigilance Commissioner, Chief Minister, Gujrat have failed to get any relief for Mr. Rami.
Feb 7th
Who is advocate Gupta from New Delhi?
Members, especially those who have an outstanding due with RAK Bank, Dubai are receiving calls from a gentleman who claims to be Advocate Gupta.
He calls up and threatens members with immediate arrest if they do not pay their dues.
All members, please be advised;
- You are Indian Citizens governed by laws of India.
- Any recovery process has to be done as per laws of India.
- Recovery can not be done without a court order, which means that a case has to be filed against you, summons issued, your side of the story heard by the court and orders passed.
- Police CAN NOT arrest you based on a complaint of non-payment. Police can only act on court orders.
- In case of any harassment, you should lodge a complaint of criminal intimidation and extortion with your local police station.
- Please DO NOT pay cash to any person who promises to settle your account. Pay by account payee crossed cheque only and only in the name of your account with the bank.
- Please insist on a settlement letter from the bank for accepting the money you are offering and closure of your account.
In case of any emergency, please do not hesitate to write to us at ccai.mumbai@gmail.com.
Sep 26th
Of late we have been getting calls from people who fell on bad times when recession hit the UAE. They were forced to leave the country in a haste because the laws there would have led to their arrest and incarceration.
People came back to India after abandoning their houses, cars and all worldly possessions. They are now being harassed here in India by people who claim to be recovery agents of these banks. They are threatening them with Interpol cases and arrest warrants issued by Interpol.
An Indian in India is subject to jurisdiction of Indian Courts.
These recovery agents are asking people to deposit money in Indian Bank accounts which belong to third parties.
We request everyone to file a police complaint against any person who approaches you for recovery of money not owed in India as remittance of money is governed by stringent RBI regulations. And you are not supposed to pay Dick when you borrowed money from Tom without Dick showing you adequate written proof (valid in India) of the mandate received from Tom.
Make a note of the number from where you are getting the calls and the name of the person calling and file a complaint of criminal intimidation and extortion against the concerned number and persons.
Aug 4th
In a recent complaint received from one of our members a new type of harassment has come into public domain.
Our member had given his apartment to Mr. K Jha 10 years ago. Mr Jha got a credit card issued to himself or maybe he already had a credit card to which he changed his address to that of his leave-n-license flat in Dahisar.
He raked up some bills on his credit card number 4567-1900-0002-3115 and disappeared from the scene. 10 years down the line the bank has now inflated the outstanding to 9,37,660/- and is demanding the same from the flat owner. The bank has been sending bills to the last known address of this person which were always returned to the bank.
And the bank has been harassing the present owner for payment. The bank has been threatening to auction the flat!
This when the bank is very much aware that credit cards are unsecured borrowings and recoverable only from the card holder and no one else.
We call upon HSBC bank to immediately stop harassing the member whose address is on their record for dues of some one else. The bank should have done proper due diligence before giving a card to a person who was staying in a rented premises. For its own failure it can not harass someone else who is the rightful owner of the property and has no connection whatsoever with the defaulting card holder.
We are also escalating this matter to the Banking Ombudsman for action against HSBC for violating IBA’s code on Fair Collection Practices of Debt.
It seems that HSBC has assigned the outstanding on Mr. Jha’s card to JM Financial. Now JM Financial is writing to Mr. Jha at the address of our member, whilst Mr. Jha no longer resides there and has not been doing so for the last 10 years.
This is causing undue harassment to our member for no fault of his. First the bank and then JM Financial are not bothered about the fact that there is no such person present at the address where notices are being sent.
And surprisingly, an unsecured credit card default has now suddenly been converted into a loan recoverable under the SARFESI Act. This calls for investigation as to how an unsecured line of credit can be converted into a recoverable loan under this act given the fact that RBI has a policy of forbearance on Credit Card Interest rates which often range between 50 to 100% per annum.
Banks are doing day light robbery under the supervision and connivance of RBI and the Finance Ministry. When will the government wake up to this daylight fleecing of its own citizens?
Jun 25th
In 2002 I entered into a settlement with Standard Chartered Bank on four credit cards that I had. The total outstanding as on 18-01-2002 was of 1,36,272/-. I was offered a settlement of 96,000 payable in 6 installments of 16,000 each starting on 20-1-2002 and ending 20-6-2002. I agreed for the settlement and paid the bank six cheques.
All the cheques got cleared in due time on presentation.
As far as I was concerned the transaction was over and the account settled.
Now in June 2011, Nine Years after closing the account, Standard Chartered Bank has come back asking for more money from me. They say that I owe them money and that I have been reported a defaulter with CIBIL. They say if I want my name removed from the CIBIL list (a pack of lies) I have to pay another 1,75,000!
This incident points to how banks routinely enter into settlement and when the transaction is complete simply ignore to inform CIBIL about the status of the account. The credit record of the individual is tarnished for ever and it also leaves a handle on the individual for further squeezing in case the individual wants to get his name removed from CIBIL.
I am planning to sue Standard Chartered Bank for damages to the extent of 1 Million US Dollar to be paid to the Prime Ministers Relief fund for deficiency of service and tarnishing the image of an individual even after entering into a settlement. And for causing mental agony to an individual by wrongly reporting his credit history.
In the mean time, I have accessed various financial institutions for small and big loans and have paid back every paise that I owed. Luckily in my case I do not need to access any institution for any more loan.
But thinking about those who have to and a shudder runs down my spine. I dread the Shylocks in the form of banks who have come to inhabit the banking space.
Therefore Standard Chartered Bank, I would prefer if you were better be gone!
May 9th
I have been having the HSBC credit card since April 2008. I was told that this card was free for life and there was no annual or joining fee.
On 12 May, 2010 to 11 June, 2010 statement, Primary Card Membership fee of Rs 2000 was charged. According to the HSBC customer support, this was not a lifetime free card. If this was not a lifetime free card, then why the same was not collected from my first statement and subsequent after completion of first year. I am shocked all of sudden when I cancelled this card by paying all dues, all of sudden this has been added without giving due notice to me.
I cancelled the card by paying the total amount to close the account. This amount did not include the membership fee. The account was cancelled (as confirmed on 11 July statement), but the membership fees was included as purchases and a finance charge of Rs 205 was included in the July statement. I did not contact the customer care regarding this. But on 28 April, 2011 I received call from the recovery team (from Delhi) to make Rs 10000+ payment as there was an amount pending.
I received similar calls pressurizing me to make the payment by 29 April, 2010 as it was month closing. Also, they confirmed to send an e-mail which will contain the total outstanding amount that needs to be paid from my end to get the no dues certificate from jatin.arora@hsbc.co.in. It is almost more than 10 days now and they have not been able to send a mail. Whenever they call me (in a day I atleast receive minimum 3 to 4 calls from different agents) they tell they have sent a mail and the mail is bouncing. I used to receive my HSBC credit card statements on the same mail-id. When they are not able to send any statement to that mail-id according to their promise then what is assurance that they will send no dues certificate after I make the payment? (irrelevant amount for which I had not done any purchases)
My question is
1. Why they suddenly started charging annual fee for a card which was promised to be free for life. If it was not a free card, then why was I not charged Primary Membership fees when I got the card and also during the subsequent year.
2. My credit limit when I got the card was Rs 50000 which was reduced without informing me to Rs 24000 after a year. For this trivial credit limit will a customer be charged this exorbitant Primary Membership fees?
3. The recovery agent from HSBC is not able to send any statement to my mail id. What is the assurance I will receive no dues certificate after I make the payment.
Kindly guide me how to get the no dues statement as I have made all the dues as on 11 June, 2010. The recovery agents keep calling me to make the payment when nothing is due from my end. Can I lodge a police complaint?
Recovery agents: Manish/ Greshma/ Reena
Phone numbers: +911145023864/ +919591985010 /+911145541687
Regards,
Preethi
Our Reply
Dear Madam,
To answer your queries
1. It is standard practice amongst banks to offer a ‘Life-Time Free’ credit card which carries a rider that you must use the card for at least ‘n’ times or for ‘n’ value for it to be free. Otherwise it is not free!!! Usually, these terms and buried in the fine print in an effort to cheat gullible people like you into accepting a credit card.
2. You should and can complain to the police.
3. If you have not written / escalated the complaint to someone higher in HSBC, please do that immediately. You can find the address of the escalation officer on HSBC website or on our website.
4. Simultaneously write to the office of the Banking Ombudsman at RBI, Delhi. I am assuming that you are a resident of Delhi as the recovery agents numbers you have quoted belong to Delhi.5. Refuse to pay the dues till you get a formal settlement letter that mentions that paying the amount will clear you of all dues and your personal record at CIBIL will be updated by HSBC as having no default.
If this does not solve your problem, do write to us in detail giving your credit card details and address to allow us to help you. Send your mail to ccai.mumbai@gmail.com
Follow up
Bank bows down and withdraws all charges to Ms. Prethi’s account.
Hi Vinod,
According to your advice, I had mailed Banking Ombudsman at RBI and HSBC. I have received the latest statement (2 April 2011 to 2 May 2011) on my e-mail id from HSBC which shows my purchases as zero.
Thank you for your time and advice.
Regards,
Preethi
Our Reply
Dear Madam,
We are delighted to know that your HSBC account has been set to zero. This means that the bank has reversed all charges to your account. This is a small victory for us.
It is our advice to you not to subscribe to a credit card. Use a debit card instead. Most credit cards are debt traps. They make you do impulse purchase for money that you may not have and then saddle you with huge charges in the form of interest (ranging from 50% to 100% per year).
No wonder the banks are pushing these products on hapless users.
Do let us know if we can assist you in future too.
Warm regards
Vinod Chand
Honorary General Secretary
Credit Consumers Association
Apr 26th
What do you do when you are a former ICICI employee who had the misfortune of owning a credit card issued by your own bank and you have defaulted for some small amount on the credit card?
Well, you can talk to your bank or come to us. Ms. Geraldine D’Silva, having ICICI credit card number 4477-XXXX-XXXX-8000 was an employee of ICICI Venture. In 2005 she had a delayed payment. The bank merrily posted hefty charges to her account. She disputed the charges and just could not keep pace with the more than 100% the bank was charging to her account. Her outstanding at that time was around 30,000. As she was an ICICI employee, she had an ICICI salary account. One fine day, the bank took out all the money she had in that account against her dues on the credit card. When she met us in 2005, we spoke with the bank to treat her case on sympathetic grounds. Since that day, she never received any bills for her credit card or any collection calls on that account. She wrongly assumed that the matter had died a natural death.
But, as you know, ICICI will never forget any money that you owe to it. In 2011, after 5 years the collection circus has started again. This time the person who identifies himself as Mr. Rokade and calling from Mumbai Telephone number 32208694 says he is from the CBI, later on he changes his credentials and says that he is from Police and yet again he says he is an advocate. He has been threatening the member with dire consequences like arrest at the airport while she is leaving the country to getting her arrested in Mumbai. The member has gone to the Bandra Police station and filed a complaint.
Now when API Patil called the offending number, he was given another number, 9594326074 which apparently was Mr. CBI/Police/Advocate Rokade’s number. But guess what this phone was answered by one Mr. Himanshu who works for ICICI.
As usual the police inspector did not bother to book the offending collection agent for criminal intimidation and trespass and told our member and the collection agent to go to court. While he is right about the dispute going to court, he could have easily arrested the collection agent for extortion, criminal intimidation, assault and battery and trespass on the privacy of the member. He could have also arrested the collection agent for masquerading as a government employee and threatening a member of the society.
Important lessons
- Never take a credit card from the bank where you have an account. The bank will sooner or later clean up your account for any default on your credit card.
- Don’t assume that the police will help you in your fight against the behemoths like ICICI.
- When you close an account, ensure you have paperwork that says that the account is closed.
We are now escalating this complaint to the office of the Banking Ombudsman.
Apr 19th
In 2006, one of our members received a credit card. While he had the card in his possession someone withdrew 4000 from a State Bank of India ATM. How did this happen? No one knows. The member had the card in his possession all the time. He was shocked to receive his first statement that showed that he had withdrawn money using his card. Our member immediately called the bank in Aug 2006 and had the card blocked.
In December he got another shock that showed that his card had been further used even after being blocked (supposedly by the call center agents). His bill had now gone up to 38,000/- His card had been used at Petrol Pumps, restaurants and all sundry places without his ever having used the card. He thought that once the card had been blocked, he need not worry.
In 2007 he approached us and we spoke with the bank. They assured us that they will do an investigation and the member need not pay any money. In July 2010 the bank sent him a letter saying that as he had never used his card, they were not sending him a new one to protect him from any fraud! And if he wanted the card, he should approach them.
Now in 2011, the bank has woken up again and started harassing the member, Santosh Nair having credit card number 5177-xxxx-xxxx-2009. They are now demanding that he pay up or else face the music. Collection agents are calling him up at odd times and asking him to visit their office.
Is there no time bar on a credit card due? Will they chase you to your grave? The RBI takes a very dim view of such collection calls. We are now escalating the matter to the banking ombudsman at Mumbai.
Take note, get all communication with the bank in writing, especially the fact that your account has been closed, else you may continue to be hounded in this life at least!
Apr 15th
April 14, 2011
Mr. Vinod Chand
Credit Consumers Association of India
3/141, M.H.B. Colony Ram Mandir Road
Mumbai 400051
Maharashtra
Dear Sir/ Madam,
Sitaram Jindal Foundation has instituted an award namely ‘Jindal Prize’ wherein 5 awards of Rs. One Crore each will be conferred annually amongst the five categories given below:-
1. Rural Development & Poverty Alleviation;
2. Health – including drugless healing;
3. Education – with emphasis on moral upliftment
4. Science, Technology and Environment
5. Peace, Social Harmony & Development.
Any person can nominate any individual or organization who have made contribution of an exceptional nature and current significance for welfare of Indian citizens subject to the condition that the achievements are transparent and open to public scrutiny and the contribution/ activity carried out had no commercial purpose or political motive.
A foreign national who had contributed in India towards the welfare of Indian citizens could also be eligible for the nomination. A person can make only one nomination in any given area. Self nomination will not be acceptable.
Prize in each category comprise of Rs. One Crore cash, a memento and a citation. An independent jury comprising of 9 eminent persons and chaired by a former Chief Justice of India will select the winners.
As you are engaged in social activities in different areas for the welfare of the people, we seek your cooperation in spreading message of awareness among the masses about the Jindal Prize and Sitaram Jindal Foundation so that a real deserving person/ organization, who might have made outstanding contribution for welfare of the people, gets nominated for the coveted award. Hopefully you will be rendering a yeomen service in this noble cause dedicated to upliftment of the society by extending your valuable cooperation.
The nominations are invited for the prize for the year 2011. The nomination forms and other relevant information can be downloaded from our website www.jindalprize.org.
The last date of receipt of nominations is 30.06.2011.
The nominations may be sent to the Secretary General at the address given above.
Thanking you,
Yours sincerely,
S.P.SHARMA
SECRETARY
Jindal Prize Secretariat
11, Green Avenue, Vasant Kunj
New Delhi – 110 070
Phones: +91-11-26890962, 26890963
Fax: +91-11-2613500
Email: info@jindalprize.org
Website: www.jindalprize.org
Feb 1st
At least SBI doesn’t
Read a complaint from one of our members.
Hi,
My name is Ashish Narang, I am holding a credit card of SBI Bank (no. 4006 6760 5933 9963). I would like to inform you the way SBI bank Credit card customers are being handled by their Collection dept, they are harassing me and talking so cheap. I had been into a settlement for my credit card dues(The total settlement amount being 97,500 /-) and I had to default on two installments due to my poor financial conditions(due to unemployment) and my mother’s health. But, I had paid back the amount of those two installments in three months time.I got a call on 20th January 2011 from their collection dept for payment. The person’s name is Abhay Verma. He called from 022-65299379. He spoke to me about my dues and stated that I will need to pay the whole amount due to the bank(i.e an amount of 1,64,931 /-). He threatened to intimate to my workplace that I owe the bank an amount of 1,64,931/- and the consequence of that would be that my job will be in risk. This threat is against the RBI guidelines for Credit Card Operations of banks – Section 4 column iii . I was almost on the verge of a nervous breakdown and agreed to pay the amount. But, then in the evening, I decided to contact my employers and put down the facts in front of them, as I had rightly paid the settlement amount as decided.
The next day, I informed my Employer’s HR department and they supported my case as I had done my payments. So I asked the guy from the agency came to collect the cheques to call up his superior(The name of his superior was Sanjay) and told him that their conditions were unjustifiable and unreasonable. They then threatened me that I would face the consequences of not paying. They then called up two of my colleagues, both of them, females and threatened then that the money will be collected from their house (This is the level to which these recovery agents can go and they start harassing people who are not even remotely involved). They even called my mother and spoke rudely accusing me of false behavior.
This is ridiculous and a very rude behavior to talk with your customers. When I asked him for his full name, he refuses. The agents are so ruthless that they do not listen to what customers are saying. They just know what they have to say or what they are asked to say.
I want to take a necessary action against these kind of agents whose details are furnished below (even the name of the agency is not quite traceable as they put different stamps on the receipts they gave me while settlement), that they have no rights to call my family members/ colleagues and abusing them.
Please help me and suggest what all actions can I take in this regard.
I am attaching herewith all the supporting documents required.
Name and phone numbers
Amay / Abhay(Either or both) 02265299379/9820233398
Anil 9322607977
Sanjay 02265149564There was also a lady calling in between from the last number above, but she never mentioned her name.
Thanks and Regards,
Ashish Narang
Will someone at SBI/RBI take note of this and take action against the erring officials?
Jan 17th
In February 2010 our member Mr. P.V. Paralkar received an unsolicited policy from ICICI Prudential with direct debit to his credit card for the premium.
As my Paralkar is a retired defence officer, he is 68 years old, he had no requirement of this policy. He promptly wrote back to ICICI Prudential and returned the policy.
But to his horror, the bank simply debited his account and converted the debit into an EMI scheme without his consent.
As this was an unsolicited policy and the debit was for no services rendered our member refused to pay. And as usual, the debit has not attained large proportion and collection calls from the bank have started.
It is a shame that a bank the size of ICICI has to stoop to such practices to meet the sales targets for selling insurance to its own customer by cheating them out of their money and peace of mind.
We are now escalating the complaint to the Office of the Banking Ombudsman for redressal.
Jan 5th
In 2005, one of our members, Mr. Vijay Daga decided to give up his SBI Credit Card. He called up the call center and as per instructions, paid the entire outstanding on the card. After this as per instructions he cut the card into four pieces and destroyed it. As he had paid all that the bank asked for, he thought that the account was closed for all practical purposes.
In 2010, he suddenly started getting bills from SBI, demanding a sum of 10,000+ rupees. He was shocked to receive these bills. He called up the SBI call center and asked them as to how he had suddenly started getting the bills? The call center employees did not have a clue as there was no information available with them on file. They asked him to call up after a few days. When he called them again, they told him that after making the final payment as requested by them, there was a balance of 25 (Twenty Five) rupees remaining on his card. Because of this they had not closed his account. At the same time they had stopped sending him any bills.
When he asked them why they did not send him any bill all these years, they said that his mobile number had changed and therefore they could not contact him! But his home address and land line telephone number, both of which were with the bank, had not changed, therefore the bank’s excuse of not being able to send the bill stood on flimsy ground.
He approached us with this problem and we guided him to write to the office of the banking ombudsman regarding the issue.
The banking ombudsman’s Mumbai office replied post haste and suggested that we write to the bank.
Before the banking ombudsman letter, SBI had been threatening our member with listing as a defaulter with CIBIL.
After we got the reply from the office of the Banking Ombudsman, RBI, Mumbai, SBI suddenly changed its tune.
It sent our member an SMS saying that the there was no outstanding on the account now!
The lesson we learned from this is that
- When you close a credit card account, ensure that the account is truly closed by getting a written confirmation from the bank.
- Banks will try to cheat and threaten you by keeping your card alive and not disclosing trailing charges.
Don’t get frightened and don’t give up. Fight back.
Dec 2nd
The Times of India carried a report on new RBI Guidelines for Loan Recovery Agents.
The salient points are
Oct 20th
Although this article is old, it makes for interesting reading. Banks and Financial Institutions use sections of Cr PC to harass customers that have defaulted on Credit Cards, Personal Loans, etc.
“Transfer cases of civil disputes to High Court”
K.T. Sangameswaran
CHENNAI: The Madras High Court on Thursday directed the Registry to withdraw cases all over the State involving disputes of civil nature in which magistrates have ordered police investigation, call for the records and transfer them to the High Court.
Passing further orders on two criminal original petitions, Justice R. Regupathi said the Registry should place the entire material and particulars before the Chief Justice for orders for an enquiry in those matters. Further proceedings of all those cases pending with the magistrates concerned were stayed till the disposal of the proceedings by the court.
The judge said all records, including vigilance reports, might be placed before the Chief Justice for taking appropriate departmental action against the magistrates, in particular III, X, XVII and XVIII Metropolitan Magistrates, Chennai, and Judicial Magistrate-III, Coimbatore and Judicial Magistrate, Paramakudi.
The DGP was directed to instruct police officers who had received orders from the magistrates in such cases under section 156 (3) of the Cr.P.C and the Station House Officers (SHOs) who had entertained similar complaints in the name of “petition enquiry” to obtain opinion from the Director-General/Additional Director-General of Prosecution/Assistant Public Prosecutors and to file interim/final reports before the jurisdiction magistrates within two weeks. The DGP should file compliance report in three weeks.
Oct 11th
Yesterday one of our members faced collection agents from ICICI Bank. The collection agent named Sachin Shinde arrived at the door of our member. When our member told him that he did not have any money for payment, the agent just refused to budge. He said he will stand there the whole day or till the time his seniors advised him to move away.
This is the standard practice adopted by collection agents appointed by banks who swear by the Model Code of Conduct for Agents in the collection process.
For quite some time such harassment had abated after we took action against erring banks, but then like we wrote earlier, you just cant teach an old dog new tricks. The collection agents are back to their bag of old tricks. Abusive calls, asking people to sell themselves, to start prostituting their wives and daughters, discussing the default with people other than the borrower who are in no way connected to the borrowing and the works.
It seems the banks have no faith in the Indian Judicial System.
We had no option but to drag the collection agent to the local police station. His immediate controller in ICICI Bank, Jagdish Shetty went into a meeting and refused to take the calls of his own men. Later we came to know that he was trying to get in touch with Mira Road Police Station and get things straightened out.
Anyway, when we lodged a complaint, the on duty Assistant Sub-Inspector, Mr. S.S. Kane, told the recovery agent to follow due procedure and not to harass the customer. He advised Mr. Shinde to use due procedure. He also asked our member to pay-up to which our member cited temporary financial difficulties and assured the officer that he had every intention to pay, just that for the time being he was not in a position to pay.
We advised the agents to seek suitable remedy / relief from a court of law as at best the act of lending and borrowing money is a civil offense for which courts can be readily approached.
But banks routinely avoid doing this. The well oiled system of collections provides for huge commissions at the cost of the customer, who will kill the golden goose that lays golden eggs?
But that was not the end of the story. Mr. Shinde promptly went back to the house of the member with a new story that we had taken away his identity card (a patent lie) and then he started subjecting the members wife to abuses. He was now joined by another person, who he claimed was his team leader and who claimed his name was Navneet. When we asked him to show us some identity, he refused to do so and was abusive to the worst. He said in so many words, ‘Remember, your wife is alone at home, we will make life miserable for her’, ‘I will not go until I am paid’, ‘I don’t care about the Police, do what ever you want’, ‘I know Gilbert Mendonsa (the local NCP leader)’ etc.
We had no option but to go back to the police station. The kind officer asked us to call both the agents to the police station and we called them over. They just refused to come. They said that they do not have money for auto-rickshaw and would walk. We waited for almost two hours for them to arrive (even walking to the police station would not have taken more than 20 minutes) and finally had to leave because it seems they had no intention of showing up.
The agents were from ‘Vaishnavi Agency’ operating out of RPG Tower at J.B. Nagar, Andheri (East).
It is our observation that all calls originating out of RPG Tower are of abusive nature.
We will be filing a criminal complaint against ICICI Bank requesting the police department to put all telephone calls originating from the above office of ICICI Bank under surveillance.
Aug 22nd
Governments across the globe have failed in their duty to protect its own citizens from legal loan-sharking.
A recent consumer survey report published on the BBC Website highlights the problem
In India too, the Reserve Bank of India and Government of India has completely failed in its duty to regulate the credit companies and banks.
Aug 18th
Kind Att:- Mr. Vinod Chand
Dear sir
This refer to our Telephonic discussion we had today Morning for the same pls findm hereby my card details.
ICICI BANK VISA CREDIT CARD NUMBER :- 4497-XXXX-XXXX-0005 DATED 8 APRIL 2005.
CREDIT LIMIT Rs. 18000/-
LAST PAYMENT DONE 2006
I HAVE SPOKEN TO PERSON CALLING FROM ICICI BANK LTD, I TOLD HIM THAT I AM READY TO SETTLE MY ACCOUNT. MY CURRENT ACCOUNT BALANCE IS Rs. 26000/-. BUT RIGHT NOW I CANT PAY THAT MUCH OF AMOUNT. MY MUMMY IS PARALISED, I SPENDING AROUND Rs.15000/- EVERY MONTHKINDLY GUIDE ME IN MATTER.
REGARDS
SATISH ERANDOLE
Dear Mr. Satish,
It is quite clear from your letter that you have every intention to pay the outstanding on your credit card and have not been able to do so in the past due to financial difficulties.
We sympathize with you with regards to your mothers health and wish her speedy recovery.
It is with great regret that we note the the ICICI Bank representative is threatening you with exposing your debt to your company’s chairman and the HR department. This is highly reprehensible behavior and is in direct violation of the banks self professed code of conduct. We will take up this matter with the concerned department within the bank.
We suggest that you write a complaint to the Banking Ombudsman, C/o Reserve Bank of India, Garment House, Dr. Annie Besant Road, Worli, Mumbai 400018 and give details of your complaint in writing.
As you are agreeable to a settlement, we fail to understand why the bank official is harassing you with threats. Please be assured that we will escalate this complaint to the concerned department within ICICI and with the Banking Ombudsman too such that your grievance can be redressed.
Vinod Chand
Hon. General Secretary,
Credit Consumers Association,
Mumbai
Aug 7th
Banks, even after charging 60% interest per year to credit card users are completely insensitive to problems faced by their own customers.
In clear violation of their own self-professed code of conduct to which they swear they adhere to, banks and their appointed collection agencies leave no stone unturned when it comes to recovering the dues on a credit card. They want you to pay, even if involves getting in the business of prostitution for raising money or selling your organs. They don’t care even if you have been a long standing customer and have fallen on tough time recently.
A case reported by a member, Mrs. Alpa Kurtakoti, holding ICICI bank credit card number 4629-XXXX-XXXX-0008, a resident of Thane shows the insensitive side of the bank and its appointed collection agency.
The member has a medical emergency at hand, her husband has suffered a heart attack compounded by a paralytic stroke and is currently undergoing treatment at Jupiter Hospital, Thane. As the member has suffered sudden financial crisis, the treatment has drained her to an extent of 5 to 6,00,000 rupees, she has fallen behind in making payments on her credit card.
The collection agency has been hounding her non-stop and wants her to pay irrespective of any method she may have to use to raise the money.
The caller, Ms. Sania, calling from Mumbai Telephone numbers 022-41021624/41021625/41021626 has been using abusive language in an attempt to recover money from Mrs. Kurtakoti. Even when the recovery agent has been informed that the member is currently unable to pay the money, the calls continue.
Where is your sense of compassion M/s ICICI Bank?
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